Supernatural Season 10.01 ‘Black’

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This clip got me thinking and trying to read between the lines and what Crowley was stipulating to Moose.

[A phone rings next to CROWLEY as he watches DEAN playing darts in the bar. He looks at the ID and then picks it up]

CROWLEY: You’re dead.

SAM: Nope. Just using a dead man’s phone.

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CROWLEY: Moose. Took you long enough. Your brother and I were beginning to wonder if you’d hit another dog. You know?

SAM: My brother is dead, Crowley. I know you have some freaking demon parading around in his meatsuit, and trust me, you are gonna pay for that.

CROWLEY: Moose. Moose. I’m afraid you haven’t allowed yourself to dream quite big enough here. Your brother is very much alive, courtesy of the mark. And the only demonized soul inside of Dean is his and his alone. Wee bit more twisted, a little more mangled beyond human recognition, but, I can assure you, all his. There, now. Feel better?

SAM: And the, uh, Abaddon supporters you’ve been sending to kill my brother, how does Dean feel about that double-cross?

CROWLEY: If that’s what you think is happening, then you’re more out of your depths than I thought.

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SAM: I don’t know how you did this, what kind of… Black-magic stunt you pulled, but hear me –I will save my brother or die trying.

CROWLEY: You know what tickles me about all this? It’s what’s really eating you up. You don’t care that he’s a demon. Heck, you’ve been a demon. We’ve all been demons. No, it’s that he’s with me and he’s having the time of his life. You can’t stand the fact that he’s mine.

SAM: He’s not your pet.

CROWLEY: My pet? He’s my best friend, my partner in crime. They’ll write songs about us, graphic novels. “The Misadventures of Crowley and Squirrel.” Dean Winchester completes me, and that’s what makes you lose your chickens.

SAM: I am going to find you, I am going to save my brother, and then I’m going to kill you dead.

CROWLEY: Well, that’s the operative phrase, isn’t it? “Find you.” good luck with that.

[CROWLEY hangs up the phone and SAM looks at his. SAM then lays the phone next to his own on the hood of the car. SAM’s phone has traced the call and it reveals they are at The Black Spur in North Dakota]

It wasn’t until Sam said ‘He’s not your pet’. I thought of Cain and his words rang in my head. It was what Cain feared all along would happen to his own brother. This was why Cain killed Abel so he wasn’t a pet to Lucifer. That this is perfect symmetry.

  1. How did Sam know Crowley was double crossing Dean and feeding him demons to feed the mark?
  2. If Crowley wants Dean as his best friend, is this the best he can do?
  3. Why Dean, why was Dean SO important to Crowley that he wanted Dean on his side so badly? To fit what purpose exactly?
  4. If the writers were plotting this against the real Cain and Abel story so far back, where is this going to lead?
  5. Why did Cain say its Dean’s destiny to kill his brother?
  6. For what reason does Dean end up killing Sam? If of course this is where the series is going?

The picture and discussion for today’s entry is from ….

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I am now beginning to get bad writers block and at times I find that I can’t fight it. So because you guys are so loyal to me I thought of an idea to keep us going. I have a feeling where most of the show is going so I am drying up. I hope this will alleviate the wait between articles. Articles take a lot of thinking and I am not as fresh with ideas as I used to be. So I hope this works out better. I will try and post a picture or a you-tube window for you all to exam and ask you questions and you can chat among yourselves also. You seem to thrive on analyse so here goes.

Supernatural Season 10 Episode 2 Reichenbach

Sam Meets Deanmon

1. Why did DemonDean NOT last more than three episodes?

2. Has Jensen the knack for playing EVIL, is there nothing this MAN cannot do?

3. Is Whisky Dean’s BEST friend?

4. Had Sam dried up and was at a loss as to how to bring the REAL Dean home?

5. Dean was determined NOT to rip Sam’s throat out, but what really stopped him. Was it more than just Sam being his brother?

6. Did Dean sense this was a trap. Did he know that Sam was on his way. Had he pre-empted it? If so what sort of fight would Dean have put up if Dean didn’t really want to go home. We know demons like to aggravate the situation which Dean was clearly doing. Using alcohol to intensify the situation. Could Sam have coped so easily with a broken arm and a wayward brother?

7. When Dean cut himself with the blade, his skin regenerated which showed us that Dean can’t die as long as he has the mark and the blade. So could he take on Lucifer if he re-surfaced?

1. Cole had a better idea that if he let his bro go, that Sam would lead him straight to Dean. So has this scenario been played to death before? Are the writers being a tad lazy here in not thinking up something more original? Was it dumb to lead Sam to the spot of the fight, as when Sam awakes he would intervene and STOP the fight? Its so obvious.

2. June 21st 2003 was the day that Cole lost his father Edward Trent, who Cole suspects that Dean is his fathers killer. In 12 years was Dean supposed to remember, or even more so since his become a demon? Demons don’t have souls, so how can Dean remember what he thought? What it felt like for Cole to loose his father?

3. Cole thinks Dean is good, well good. But does he know at this point what he’s up against? That he’s destined to FAIL big time. Once Dean’s skin heals in front of him he’s horrified to learn what Dean really is? But at the time Dean in his eyes murdered his father Dean back then wasn’t a demon. So is Cole not seeing this? We know that at this point Cole doesn’t know what Dean does for a living, so does this make any real difference to the plot?

4. Why did DemonDean decided to change his mind in NOT killing Cole there and then? Was there some spark that Dean had, a more human side peaking through that evil exterior? Or did he suspect it was more fun this way that he thought Cole might come back for a second shiner?

Questions about season 10?

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I thought this blog entry might be a little different, I thought about putting questions to you guys and see how YOU answer them. I adored the last episode and there were so many highlights. I think the episode had to go to Jensen and Tim! They were dynamite!! It was a FULL 10 from me…

On IMDb I passed a few questions which still confuse me and others so here goes:

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After reading bits on the internet, there seems some confusion as to if Cain still had the mark when he transferred it to Dean. A number are saying its a copy as Cain still had it as it light up when he wielded the blade again. So my point to this confusion is, why did Cain want to pass the mark on to someone who he deemed worthy? What was the whole point in him just copying it over to Dean and not letting it leave his body? I thought he wanted rid of the curse, totally and be free of it?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460681/board/nest/240619081

All objects with powers so far in the stories when broken like Gods Tablets all lose power when broken. If Dean brakes the Blade would it lose its power, so that would get rid of the Mark.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460681/board/nest/240522316

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IIRC Dean didn’t lie twice. He didn’t lie about giving the blade back to Crowley at all. He said something along the lines of TFW and Crowley having a much bigger problem on their hands depending on whether Dean gave the blade back or not. That isn’t a lie, he never gave Crowley an answer.

Also Dean has reason now not to want Crowley around. It might have been cruel to ‘lie’ to Crowley about the kill list but his motive is not to kill Crowley. Dean might be reasoning that if he doesn’t kill Crowley then Castiel and Sam are safe?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460681/board/nest/240522402

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So I guess Cain isn’t the source as dean killed him and still has the mark. Now that Cain is ruled out what do people think the source may be? Lucifer, god or something else entirely.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460681/board/nest/240436035

http://www.dltk-bible.com/genesis/chapter4-cv1.htm

Me personally, I feel it comes back to God. If you read up on the history of Cain and why he murdered his brother because he was jealous of what he offered up to god as a sacrifice it doesn’t even mention Lucifer as the creator of the mark of Cain? So how have the writers switched this, or is this the twist later on. That the boys do in fact end up searching for God to find answers?

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Why did Cain say it was Dean’s DESTINY to KILL Sam.

Any thoughts on this one? As I am still wondering …..

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Was Rowena right in saying that Crowley was the Winchesters bitch?

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Was the boy used as bait, real or just an illusion to lure Cain out of hiding?

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It was a wired kind of ending, but thinking back to the purge speech from Sam, he is totally different over his brother this time. We understood he was lying in the purge, and his face at the end of the episode said it all. He was scared for Dean, as Dean himself was. There was no getting away from the mess they are both in. My real burning question is, do we see a light at the end of the tunnel? Is there any way out of this nightmare for Dean? Is this what Sam’s face is portraying back to us?

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Is Charlie Bradbury, Robbie Thompson’s self insert?

I don’t think we’ve talked about this connection before on this blog, and thought its about time I corrected this. Many no on IMDb that I personally don’t like Charlie, and I don’t really care for the actress Felicia Day either. I began to find her interesting in The Girl with the Dungeons and Dragons Tattoo to start with, but this interest soon began to waver. The more she appeared on the show, I liked her less and less.

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It wasn’t until recently that Lacountess and others pointed out on the message board, that

http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/01/supernatural-season-10-episode-11-gripe.html

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Another reason why Charlie is nobody’s girlfriend is her creator. Robbie Thompson is a straight guy. Charlie is his gender swapped self-insert. He doesn’t dream of dating any of the protagonists like fan-fiction writers do, rather he wants to be one of them, or all of them, and outshine them at everything. That’s why his creation is a mix of all three protagonists. She has Dean’s wit and badassery, Castiel’s adorable dorkyness, and Sam’s smarts and tendency to attract the dark and the supernatural. She does all of these better than either of them every time she’s around, and they feel so impressed they turn into mouthpieces of her praise and validation.

So do we feel this that Robbie thinks he is Charlie, in the fact that he parades around and bases his own writing on this caricature wishing that he was in fact her himself? It seems very strange that only Robbie can write Charlie, and no one else can pen the character but him. He has a certain style with Charlie that she always out shines the brothers and beats them at their own game. She is suddenly thrust into this universe and can be like them at a moments notice, winning every case, finding out and researching the monster and ending its days. But also likes to be the damsel in distress, so the boys at least do have some purpose in her universe.  They are usual to a degree in bringing Charlie to safety and resuscitating her when necessary. But Charlie won’t tolerate them being leads whilst she’s in the limelight.

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If Robbie insists on being Charlie, where does this leave CHARLIE as a character. Has Robbie backed himself into a corner in thinking that he is her that he can’t write any other supernatural story without involving Charlie… Many characters on this show have fallen by the wayside who have never had the encouragement by the writers like Charlie Bradbury seems to have had. When I think how Kevin was easily destroyed whom could have been a real help to the boys in general, who had the brains, the knowledge and power to help. What a waste!

One other reason I am not so keen on Charlie, is that she has knowledge. She is a computer expert. Okay but the show also had Ash and Frank who were super geek experts. Why not bring either one of them back instead of bringing in a wet behind the ears female who is no where near their league of genius? Do you not agree …

After the boys warn the next potential victim they stick around and discover Dark Charlie. This is when the writer’s self-indulgence peaks its high. Thompson wants Charlie to be a protagonist, yet at the same time he lusts after an edgy, bad girl attitude for her. So what does he do? Something even fanfiction writers don’t. He makes two copies of her, one good and one evil. That frees him to pander to both sides of his fantasy without risking his favorite’s sympathy magnet.

Do you think that this is true, that Robbie created two Charlie’s that he yearns for the edgy Charlie. Is this why he wrote a good and evil Charlie so he could see what two different Charlies were like on screen? That he in fact preferred the latest version of Charlie the evil one, not the good one…

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The person who suffers most from this plot twist is Felicia Day. I don’t know much about her outside her role as Charlie but looking at her Wikipedia page, I found out she was more known as a You-tube personality and show host than an actress. It’s reflected in her work on the show because in Charlie, Felicia was pretty much playing herself, and that was probably the only thing that worked well for the character.

Here Thompson tasks her with playing dual roles and she falls short. Felicia is not Jensen, Jared or Misha. She doesn’t have their experience and caliber to perform as multiple personalities, so her Dark Charlie comes out very flat and unconvincing.

How do you feel about this statement, that after uncovering a little about the actress she is only really known in small circles and appears that she is just a you-tube host in previous roles. Is this what perhaps I don’t really like about Charlie myself, that she comes across as flat and unconvincing in being that real actress. She has NO real experience behind her that leaps out at me. Do you think Felicia is really playing herself in Charlie that there is no real substance there.

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So what do you think about Robbie, is he a Charlie Bradbury self insert? Or do you think he has every reason to write about his favorite character in his own style as he sees fit? How do you see future Charlie, if she continues to blossom among the younger audience, do you see her becoming a regular on this show? Many hate this prospect and I think I would scream like ‘crazy’ if it ever did happen for real! I thought for a brief moment when Charlie went to Oz, it would be her farewell, her swan song. But then the board began to talk, assuming ‘she’ll be back’. They were right to think so…

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Apparently next week we have the episode ‘About a boy’ penned by Adam Glass, this interview also mentioned that Adam tweeted on twitter that he was in charge of writing Teen Dean. He talked on his twitter page how he modeled Dean’s story after his own teen years, i.e. another self-insert. I’m sure we’re all going to have a jolly good time watching that fan-fiction.

I deserve to be LOVED ….

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On the message board the topic of Rowena came up once again, and made me think about this connection between her and Crowley. Virtually since she appeared on the scene I’ve been racking my brains as to wonder why is she here. and what is she underneath up to? There has to be a motive no matter how small, doesn’t there?

So after reading the rest of the threads it got me thinking about Crowley’s moment with Sam in the Church in the Season 8 finale. Sam was turning Crowley hour by hour human with the demon cure. Crowley’s true feelings were beginning to emerge that underneath that tough, hard exterior lay a gentle, soft kind man. So the more I think about it this is what Crowley has always deep down craved. His emotions told us that he wanted someone to love him. That deep down he wanted people to give him affection and not ignore him. Deep down he wanted affection from one specific person, his own mother.

Crowley told us in Season 8 that he had a fling with Naomi, I think this got to him when she blatantly tore him off a strip and put the ball back in his court. He felt wounded by her rejection and thinking she thought that of him made those wounds go even deeper into that already twisted soul of his. So the more Sam continued to make Crowley human, the more those feelings came to the surface and much more apparent to us. Know one had ever really shown him any love. He didn’t know what it was like to be LOVED…. Had Crowley even had a relationship? No one knows much about Fergus’s past if he’d had any acquaintances that lasted where any woman had shown him any affection. That speech in the church was said for a reason. It had been brewing within him for years. So are we still any the wiser as to why Rowena has turned up after all these years?

Rowena coming back into his life is what he’s desperately been seeking, all these years. His mothers love, and acceptance of him. He wants her to be proud of him, and if he doesn’t ultimately receive this, he will end her days quicker than she can say ‘Son’… And she knows this too. Which is why she is giving him what he wants.

So do you feel that Crowley has been lacking love in his life. And this is ultimately what he’s always been craving. Has he been so lonely that know one has ever really shown him what its like to be loved. What interaction with women has Crowley ever really had. Had Rowena deserting him, and more of a profound affect on him that he has been hankering after his mother all these years. Now that she is in his life, do we think its what he’s desired and been missing all these years!! Is she living up to his expectations?

What do you really feel about FLASHBACKS?

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Most of the time until today, when I started re-watching season 8 that FLASHBACKS really do have a meaning. Up until this point I thought to be honest, they were a pain in the ass!! They annoyed the hell out of me, as I thought they were not giving much away. But then I came to a conclusion that in the present time, how else could the writers tell us that story, that for the boys were in the past?

It did to a point, and still made me cringe when Dean was going off to see Benny in Blood Brothers and he was just starring into space thinking about a memory with Benny in his RECENT past. His recent past being very fresh since he’d only been topside a couple of weeks tops. If the FLASHBACKS had been further back like when the boys were infants, I granted the FLASHBACK. For some reason in my mind it was reverting back further into the brains memory to retrieve this FLASHBACK. So that memory would have been much harder to focus on, and retrieve? Where as a present most recent is still quite fresh in the brains memory. So the story would be fresh even though season 8 was all about perception, working out what wasn’t real/right! I however, really did want to see Purgatory in the FLESH, not just recorded in a FLASHBACK …. As it was a superb piece of story telling, and just to be told in FLASHBACKS was a let down. I wanted to see this pure, RAW, magic in the flesh in present time.

So in your own mind how do you feel about FLASHBACKS. Do you think its a bit of a cop out that we don’t get to see the full story develop, or do you feel its a clever invention? I am warming up to the idea that its a clever invention. Even though perhaps they could lengthen the FLASHBACK and include a little more story. I know FLASHBACK is just this, a short flash of memory but a year spent in Purgatory didn’t flesh out much in recorded FLASHBACK time. So in some respects it is a cheap way of filming, that they don’t necessarily have to tell the whole story, just tease you with tit-bits of information. So I once again would love to know how you treat a FLASHBACK, and what does it mean in writing terms?

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My only other concern for FLASHBACKS is that once again more than anything the boys after often apart. Which is sad as they hadn’t spent this time together. They had been split up because of a supernatural entity. A plot gone wrong! So what other way could a story be told, if it wasn’t for this invention of a FLASHBACK. A record of the past in a few short seconds of time. A FLASH of memory being delivered and re-wound for our entertainment. Is it worth inserting into the story, does it hold water or not add anything to it. So do share, do you say yes or no to a FLASHBACK!!

Was Sam Jealous or Angry over Dean in season 8?

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Often the same topic continues to come up on the message board that season 8 wasn’t a great season for Sam in general. And I must admit I tend to agree with this statement. But there is one nagging quote that still continues to play on my mind. Which is when Dean came back from Purgatory, he came back with Benny NOT just BENNY but a friggin’ vampire. Now since those episodes aired I recall watching a convention clip of Jensen answering a fan this very question. Was Sam angry or jealous that Dean had bought a Vampire back with him and kept him a secret? Jensen replied to the fan he thought Sam was angry and saw Dean as a bit of a hypocrite since Sam went off with Ruby which angered him all that time ago. I could see why this angered Sam and triggered off those emotions within him, and in the season 8 finale he called back those very words who are you gonna turn to next time…. instead of me? Another angel, another — another vampire?

What had started all this off in Sam's mind?

ABANDONED CHURCH

[DEAN with his hands up walks slowly towards SAM.]

DEAN: Easy there. Okay. Just take it easy. We got a slight change of plan.

SAM: What? What’s going on? Where’s Cas?!

DEAN: Metatron lied. You finish this trial, you’re dead, Sam.

SAM: So?

ABANDONED CHURCH

SAM: Look at him. Look at him! Look how close we are! Other people will die if I don’t finish this!

DEAN: Think about it. Think about what we know, huh? Pulling souls from hell, curing demons, hell, ganking a Hellhound! We have enough knowledge on our side to turn the tide here. But I can’t do it without you.

 SAM: You can barely do it with me. I mean, you think I screw up everything I try. You think I need a chaperon, remember?

DEAN: Come on, man. That’s not what I meant.

SAM: No, it’s exactly what you meant. You want to know what I confessed in there. What my greatest sin was? It was how many times I let you down. I can’t do that again.

DEAN:  Sam —

SAM: [beginning to cry] What happens when you’ve decided I can’t be trusted again? I mean, who are you gonna turn to next time instead of me? Another angel, another — another vampire? Do you have any idea what it feels like to watch your brother just –

DEAN: Hold on, hold on! You seriously think that? Because none of it — none of it — is true. Listen, man, I know we’ve had our disagreements, okay? Hell, I know I’ve said some junk that set you back on your heels. But, Sammy… come on. I killed Benny to save you. I’m willing to let this bastard and all the sons of bitches that killed mom walk because of you. Don’t you dare think that there is anything, past or present that I would put in front of you! It has never been like that, ever! I need you to see that. I’m begging you.

SAM: How do I stop?

[SAM squeezes his hand as blood drops out onto the floor the orange glow is a little brighter but then starts to fade.]

DEAN: Just let it go.

SAM: I can’t. It’s in me, Dean. You don’t know what this feels like.

[DEAN wraps a bandanna around Sam’s cut.]

DEAN: Hey, listen, we will figure it out, okay, just like we always do. Come on.

[DEAN grabs SAM and pulls him in for a tight hug.]

DEAN: Come on. Let it go, okay? Let it go, brother.

[The orange glow in SAM’S arms starts to fade. SAM backs away from Dean to look at his arms as the orange glow fades.]

SAM: Hey, Dean.

DEAN: See?

[SAM Breathing shakily then Sam doubles over in pain. DEAN brings SAM outside the church. ]

DEAN: Sam? I got you, little brother. You’re gonna be just fine.

[Sam groans and falls next to the IMPALA in severe pain.]

DEAN: Sam, Sam?

DEAN: Cas?!

[SAM wheezing]

DEAN: Castiel?! Where the hell are you?

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I get that scenes can be tough for fans to watch. But I always enjoy understanding other fans versions of scenes, which was partly why I originally decided to set up this blog. Season 8 Sam to me changed so dramatically, from the character I feel in love with. His grumpy, irritable attitude in the moment he confronts Dean the next time I see him maybe it will be me who Ices him! Now we all know Sam’s anger has always been a strong issue. But why had Carver decided to radically change this character? I still find it hard to watch season 8 and that scene in particular haunts me. It’s like Sam had a total personality transplant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG7QkoPyVg4

This scene bugs me out of most of season 8. I know in the past we have discussed sections, but those thoughts still nag me today. Why did Sam ditch the phones? Can someone please give me an answer as to why he thought this was “Mature”. It doesn’t add up logically. Sam just wouldn’t jump ship and disown the family business just at the drop of a hat, for no reason? As many know I am a HUGE Sam fan, but this really does stick in my core as to why the writers thought Sam would do something so irresponsibly without good reason? I have gone over and over this chain of events in my gut and heart to find answers and I can’t. I just don’t think in all honesty this is something Sam would have done which is why I think it was so out of character. When Dean questioned him, and continued to do so, he flat out denied it and almost didn’t give a damn about Kevin’s welfare or safety. Why would he abandon the phone a life line to saving people, which is primarily the family business? His whole attitude didn’t impress me and was concerned for him. Thinking that maybe he’s still in shock, or not well. But nothing led to this conclusion.

INT. RUFUS’S CABIN – NIGHT

DEAN is going through a box containing phones.

SAM: You want some dinner?

DEAN: Pass. [He puts an earphone into his ear.]

SAM: Okay. [He stirs something on the stove.]

CUT TO: SAM is at the table eating. DEAN, who had been listening to phone messages through the headset, turns to look hard at him.

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SAM: What?

DEAN takes out the earphone and puts the phone on speaker.
PHONE MESSAGE – KEVIN
Sam Winchester, its Kevin Tran. Crowley had me in this warehouse, and I just escaped. I don’t know where I am. And I don’t know if he or – or any other demons are still after me. I need your help. Call me back. It’s Kevin Tran.

SAM: When was that?

DEAN plays another message.
PHONE MESSAGE – KEVIN
Sam Winchester. It’s Kevin Tran. I called you a week ago. Call me, please. I don’t know what the hell I’m doing out here, man.

SAM: puts down his spoon.

SAM: Okay. [He stands up.] I get it. So, what, you want to… strategize or something?

There is no underlining guilt here in Sam’s expressions. I can’t read him or begin to understand him. It’s like he didn’t understand what Dean was getting at. Why he was angry and playing back the messages. I so wanted to SLAP Sam at this point and shake him!! He had obliterated Kevin from his mind, and basically didn’t care less about him. There is something very ugly about Sam not wondering what happened to Kevin. Where Crowley took him and that there was no follow up, rescue attempt. Sam just abandoned Kevin. This whole set up concerned me because of his OOCness. That Sam DOES care very much about people, and their safety. Its paramount to him which is why I could never understand the writers going there, can you? What within this parameter of MATURITY were they aiming for? What is mature about walking away from a person in mortal danger?

DEAN: plays another message.

PHONE MESSAGE – KEVIN
Sam, its Kevin. I’m… Whoo! I’m so good.

SAM: Is he…drunk?

PHONE MESSAGE – KEVIN
Three months since you ditched my ass. Haven’t slept for more than four hours a night. It’s all good in the hood. [clears throat] Uh, if you’re still alive, eat me.

DEAN plays another message.

PHONE MESSAGE – KEVIN
Eat me!

DEAN plays another message.

PHONE MESSAGE – KEVIN
Sam, it’s been six months. I can only assume you’re dead. If not, don’t try and reach me. You won’t be able to. I won’t be calling this number anymore.

DEAN stands up.

DEAN: He was our responsibility. [He tosses the phone at SAM’s chest.] And you couldn’t answer the damn phone.

Dean’s words said it all, that Sam didn’t pick up the phone to see if his friend was even still alive ….

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EXT. WATER – NIGHT

DEAN and BENNY are in the boat approaching the dock. BENNY is steering and DEAN is standing at the bow with rope. SAM waits on the dock. DEAN throws the rope to SAM and tosses his and BENNY’s bags onto the dock.

EXT. DOCK – NIGHT

DEAN steps off the boat. SAM looks past him to BENNY. BENNY joins DEAN on the dock.

BENNY: [to SAM] I’m Benny.

BENNY offers SAM his hand. SAM takes it begrudgingly.

BENNY: Heard a lot about you, Sam.

In slow motion, SAM looks at DEAN as SAM undoes the cover of a knife holster at his side with his left hand. SAM’s fingers flex on his knife. BENNY watches. DEAN shakes his head and SAM loosens his grip on his knife. BENNY lets go of SAM’s hand.

BENNY: I can see you two have a lot to talk about.

BENNY pats DEAN on the arm picks up his bag and steps between SAM and DEAN as he walks away. SAM and DEAN look at each other.

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Supernatural 8×06 ‘Southern Comfort’ Ending – Sam stands up to Dean

EXT. MOTEL – NIGHT

SAM closes the trunk of the IMPALA.

SAM: For the record, the girl – her name’s Amelia. Amelia Richardson. She and I had a place together in Kermit, Texas.

DEAN: Look, man, I don’t even remember what I said, but, uh –

SAM: But what? But you didn’t mean it? Oh, please. You and I both know you didn’t need that penny to say those things.

DEAN: Come on, Sam.

SAM: Own up to your crap, Dean. I told you from the jump where I was coming from, why I didn’t look for you. But you? You had secrets. You had Benny. And you got on your high and mighty, and you’ve been kicking me ever since you got back. But that’s over. So move on, or I will.

DEAN: Okay. I hear you.

SAM: Good. [He walks towards the passenger seat and faces DEAN over the car.] You know what? Hear this, too. I just might be that hunter that runs into Benny one day and ices him.

DEAN: I guess we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it, won’t we?

SAM: Yeah. Yeah. You keep saying that.

There is a whole ensemble with what is wrong with Sam’s personality during season 8 and into 9 which I feel can’t fully be explained by anyone given fan. People say they know a person when they are out of character, and to me this just stinks OOC with Sam. I have dug deep into my soul, and have had numerous headaches trying to work out why?

I recall when Sam went to retrieve Bobby from Hell as part of the Trials Bobby was shocked to learn that Dean had come back from Purgatory with a Vampire. So even my guess would be that Bobby would have been mad at Dean not just Sam in bringing home a monster, the thing that they’ve hunted for years. Bobby had a hard time getting his head around it, not just Sam. But even when Sam first met Benny he was hostile. Sam hadn’t shaken Benny’s hand at this point so how did Sam know, instinctively know what Benny was at this point? By the look of him, his pale complexion perhaps gave him a sign. But to seal those thoughts I guess it was the hand shake that confirmed it to Sam that he was a vampire, because he hands would have been cold to touch. Considering his body is dead.

So how do you remember how you felt when you saw those scenes pan out? Where did your head canon go when you first realized that Sam had issues with Benny and acted rather strangely over Kevin’s disappearance and the phones? Do you still struggle with the concept that Sam acted hostile or is it something instinctively that you’ve come to expect with Sam? How did you read him, and what did your own conclusions draw on re-watch? If the writers were trying to achieve angst/drama they certainly succeeded in creating some. But for what real purpose, just to draw an even bigger wedge between the brothers?

Why is Cole coming back?

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We had spoiler news today that Cole is making a return visit, but why? I’ve been thinking about this all day and also reminding myself of that end scene in ‘Girls, Girls, Girls’. Cole still looked distraught, and at the time I did ponder on the thought, is this the last we will see of him? All those hours of training himself up to kill Dean for the death of his father still hadn’t really left him. He’s gone back home stewed for a while thinking about Dean’s words.

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Is revenge for the death of his father still on his conscience? Has he forgiven Dean for the brutal death of his father. On the message board we did discuss the possibility that Cole could be the same monster as his father? Which could be an interesting twist. I also thought he might come back as a hunter, now he knows about Dean’s world, and that monsters are real? Had Dean’s suicide magic words not worked? If they had worked, why now has Cole decided to make a return visit? Is he not happy with Dean’s reaction to his fathers death? Does Cole want more answers that he’s not found yet? Dean was very vague about the events post 2003, and didn’t even recall what the monster was that he killed. So if Cole is what his father is, how will the boys know how to see it off?

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So why have the writers decided to bring Cole back? For what satisfactory end, that Dean may end up killing Cole? Or might the writers decide to turn Cole into an ally and work along side The Winchesters as Garth did? Why do you think Cole is returning? What suspicions do you have? Wasn’t Dean’s words in talking Cole of the ledge enough to satisfy his curious mind?  I had thought, could Dean and Cole be possibly connected in some way, as they appear alike in looks, and how they act. Their temperaments are very similar, both being very driven men, and family orientated men. So could there be another Winchester family connection going on?

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Drop me a line as to why you think Cole is making a sudden return? …..

Will they make The Mark of Cain permanent?

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An interesting topic came up on IMDb in a thread titled Does this season have a point? I seem to recall JC stating that there was no real ‘Big Bad’ of the season that the season was about the characters own personal struggles, which this when you think about it, appears to be the case. Castiel has his troubles with Hannah and her wanting to return her vessel to a normal Caroline life. We have Cas contemplating the same inner struggle. We also have Cas now interacting with his daughter and feeling guilty over her father and the whole dilemma of his vessel which only caused the Novak family years of misery, troubled times and loneliness.

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Then we move on to Crowley who some might think is growing soft in his old age, and still remaining very human that he still has feelings for his mother. But what personal struggles has Crowley had, that his mother tried to sell him for three pigs, and he thought he was worth at least 5 of anyone’s money? This pair seem to have a troubled, turbulent past. Which when haven’t really seen unfold yet. So what do you think Rowena is up to, and why after all this time has she decided to show her face now? What’s in this story for her is she wanting her sons thrown, is this all there is to bargain with? Crowley is obviously struggling with his mothers return but why? Is this HIS personal struggle?

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Then we come onto our main leads? Sam has not had much of a role, except look out for his brother. Some may say this is his personal on-going struggle that he needs closure on Dean’s trouble to help him through it. It was wonderful to see Sam make Dean a cheese sandwich, and that the roles of nurse maid Dean last season have this season subtle reversed and have been flipped on its head. Sam whilst on his own for six months hasn’t yet been clearly defined as to what he did actually do. What measures he took to ensure that Dean came home? Has this still got to come to ahead? Is this Sam’s personal struggle?

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Now onto Dean! What has his personal struggle been? The poor sod died, and came back as a demon. Now we know Dean hated being that black eyed thing, so he’s obviously still not come to terms with being a demon, will he ever? Will Dean ever be the same I ask myself? Some even say and me included that could he have faked it, being cured? Then we still have the Mark of Cain to deal with, and over come. This made me think a lot about how the mark will actually be removed, and what effect it will have on Dean when its removed?  Now this personal struggle I would say is the toughest out of all four main leads, wouldn’t you say? I would also add that Dean spent a while with Crowley, and I wonder what feelings the pair of them had for one another, and what symptoms Dean took away from their time together? What Dean learnt and what skills he picked up as a demon working for Crowley? I wonder if the writers will explore this avenue?

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Some are also saying that The Mark of Cain could remain a permanent fixture on the show. But I am not so sure about this. Why is Cain coming back? He wanted Dean to end his days. If Dean kills Cain where does this leave the mark. Does this disappear when Cain dies, or will Dean be left with the scare forever!!! Its hard to say at this point. But are the writers up to its longevity? They struggled with the concept of Soulless Sam, and domesticated Dean with Lisa, and that didn’t prove very popular among fans. They struggled with the whole Lucifer arc and Sam’s hallucinations and the Leviathan story line. And thinking about it the on going angel war in heaven. They didn’t really no where to take it? So would they be any different if this plot did decide to become permanent?

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So what are your thoughts about our characters struggles, and if the writers can hack out this plot with Dean for ever and a day? Are they talented enough to endure us as fans for the long haul? We know Jensen is up to what ever the writers lay before him, but can the writers cut it?

Bella’s Tribute to Supernatural the 200th Episode part 1.

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Hi all,

Lou has asked me over on Supernaturally Devoted to compile pieces for the 200th episode. So since we are on hiatus and my brain is dead, with very little brain activity. I thought I would impress you all with my choices and share them with you too. Over the next coming weeks I will add a few sections to show you my favorite episodes, choices of music, brotherly moments, favorite villain and so on. So I’d love you to come back and walk down memory lane with me. So we start of with favorite Bro Moments, and my favorite music from the show. Sorry its long winded but I think its fun looking back and remembering how these boys have grown up, and are a huge part of our lives. I love both brothers and its so hard picking scenes and narrowing them down when there have been so many. I hope you like my selections over the next few weeks. And don’t forget to drop me a line!!

Love Bella xxx

5 Favourite Brotherly Moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auZUr7BBZRs

2.22 All Hell breaks loose Parts 1 and 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-U0AsyF7yY

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This is my personal favorite episode of all time. It had so much going for it, that it captured my imagination in every single way possible. I never saw the first three seasons live, and I can only begin to imagine what loosing Sam must have felt like to those watching. It must have been terrifying for Dean, when I remember him looking up into the diner window realizing something was up when the radio turned static. Where had Sam disappeared to, then Dean found sulfur on the window ledge and realized the obvious Sam had been taken by supernatural forces? The physic kids began to materialize and Sam had come to an unknown location to him, a spooky un-habitated village. Dean searched and searched for Sam with the help of Bobby and Andy telepathically tries to reach Dean. Who understands where Sam is. Dean eventually finds Sam only to see Jake kill his brother with a single stab wound into his spine. Dean is holding his brother in the pouring rain calling out his brother’s name three times. Even now this scene continues to haunt me that I feel their plight and misery that Jake caused. How scary that must have been for Dean finding Sam then losing him. What was going to happen next> I wonder ….

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4.10 Heaven and Hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWv9A8Z05jg

I still fill up with all sorts of emotions when I ever watch this clip. How Dean felt about his time in Hell, how he was describing every moment to his brother out loud. It’s a tossup between this scene and Dean talking to Sam’s dead body in ABHL, which I think are Jensen’s best ever performances. He is so perfect at crying, and showing us that one single tear trickling down his face. But it for the first time made me feel how strong Dean actually was, that he’d spent 30 years on that rack before dealing out some of that crap to others, that he had endured himself. How vividly he appeared to be recalling his time to Sam, and that he felt every second of it. That Alistair tried to break him and he did actually succeed. Demons had Dean right where they wanted him…

5.04 ‘The End’

This end scene is possibly one of my most ever favorite lines of the show. Sam had just found out that he was Lucifer’s true vessel, and that Zachariah had zapped Dean into the future. Sam wanted back in and Dean refused his first request but once he’d returned from the future and seeing Lucifer kill his future self he allowed his brother back because it was more than that ‘we keep each other human.’ Dean couldn’t be without Sam no matter what. So all of Zach’s past efforts were an utter waste of time. Because family at the end of the day trumps all EVIL!

7×02 ‘Hello Cruel World.’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOzYUfSOWUs

Sam was having hallucinations of Lucifer and was in a real bad way and Lucifer sneakily shape-shifts into Dean to fool Sam into taking him to the warehouse, to make Sam go insane. The real Dean arrives in the nick of time and realizes what is going on. Dean tries to convince Sam what is real, and that the wound on his hand is real as he attended to it and sewed it up. And that he should make that his stone number one and build on it. This to me conjures up a great brother moment knowing how well they know each other, and that Dean can make Sam believe that he is the real brother and the other is an impostor.  Sam had been in a right state mentally, and for Dean to pull him through was a great achievement. One scene I will always fondly remember …

9×23 Do you believe in Miracles?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUKP1GAlHfg

It was a tossup between this and Sacrifice and I had to really think about the dialogue and the meaning behind the moments, and Dean saying ‘I am proud of us’ stole it for me. It also felt like perfect symmetry, a reflection of ‘All Hell breaks Loose’ season 2. It was a perfect moment and the crowning glory, and that the roles were reversed. That Dean was on the receiving end of death this time, and the one dying. And this clip had my favourite instrumental piece playing in the background. I also found out much later on that it’s also known as ‘Dean’s Theme.’

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5 Favourite Songs:

Supernatural has two score composers. Christopher Lennertz and Jay GruskaChristopher Lennertz received an Emmy nomination for his work on the series’ first season in 2006. A few words have to be mentioned for the little tingling piece of guitar music at the end of the show which is seldom noticed among fans. Its gentle, rock notes emerges as we sigh… that our episode has come to an end, for another week. So I give a nod to Jay Gruska for his brilliance in bringing us this score which has been present to us fans for the past 10 years. ‘Carry on wayward son’, often comes up and is notice more by fans, and is the shows main theme song, but this little instrumental rarely hits the headlines. So I hope we notice his efforts more frequently in the future …

My second and most moving piece of instrumental music has to go to ‘American’, which I have only recently found out its title and origin. It is the haunting piece that is often played during sad brotherly moments, deaths, and remembrances. It almost every time moves me to tears, and I am a blubbering wreck! Its orchestral piece seems to enhance the magic between the brothers every time, and ejects certain calmness within me too. I was so interested in finding out more about this piece but, couldn’t find it on you-tube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL_wIC71r-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1DSD4G4KLQ

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02.12 Faith

(Don’t Fear) The Reaper – Blue Oyster Cult:

All our times have come
Here, but now they’re gone
Seasons don’t fear the reaper
Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain
(We can be like they are)

Come on baby
(Don’t fear the reaper)
Baby take my hand
(Don’t fear the reaper)
We’ll be able to fly
(Don’t fear the reaper)
Baby I’m your man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GLImW9aoLk

When I remember playing back Faith this soundtrack continuously played in the back of my mind. I remembered thinking how evocative it was, and that the music was such a perfect fit to the story itself. And how it made me feel for Dean and his safety and also Sam’s struggle in how he did everything he could to save Dean. Those Reapers were really scary, and the story telling was superb in this episode. Especially thinking that these people thought this man could heal them. When it turned out to be a con.

5.02 – Good God, Y’All

Norman Greenbaum – Spirit in the Sky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws2-FX6KoXM

When I die and they lay me to rest
Gonna go to the place that’s the best
When I lay me down to die
Goin’ up to the spirit in the sky …

I have some fond memories of this track, as this was the first season I remember watching live. I also recall the clips and pictures that came through on the spoilers and thinking wow that over turned car, this looks a strong episode. This is where the boys first start to encounter the four horsemen of the Apocalypse. I thought it was again perfect lyric telling in the song which matches the scene amazingly well. This I think was my first real taste in the feel of the music for the show. I still remember in my mind Sam switching off the radio in the over turned car. Those boys looked scared ridged wondering when some demon might pounce on them! I fondly remember Ellen giving Dean a hard slap around the face for not calling her…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzXVCxqMYiM

5.03 Free to Be You and Me

Lynyrd Skynyrd – Simple Man

Mama told me when I was young
Come sit beside me, my only son
And listen closely to what I say.
And if you do this
It will help you some sunny day.
Take your time… Don’t live too fast,
Troubles will come and they will pass.
Go find a woman and you’ll find love,
And don’t forget son,
There is someone up above.

[Chorus:]
And be a simple kind of man.
Be something you love and understand.
Baby, be a simple kind of man.
Oh won’t you do this for me son,
If you can?

This episode was the first time I remember seeing the brothers alone without one another. The symmetry between their lives was so close. I loved thinking how Dean looked over to Sam’s seat in the Impala and he wasn’t there. Sam washing down the sink top in the bar, when Dean was washing The Impala down. This was the episode where they both found out that they were to be both angel vessels for both Michael and Lucifer when he finally finds Sam and pays him a visit disguised as Jessica. The music was just utterly mind blowing, and so fitting.

8.01 We need to talk about Kevin?

Styx – Man in the Wilderness

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Another year has passed me by
Still I look at myself and cry
What kind of man have I become?
All of the years I’ve spent in search of myself
And I’m still in the dark
‘Cause I can’t seem to find the light alone

Sometimes I feel like a man in the wilderness
I’m a lonely soldier off to war
Sent away to die, never quite knowing why
Sometimes it makes no sense at all …

Scream the lyrics when the Season 8 Premier begins to unfold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87L9uP2Toq4

This episode turned out to be quite sad, wondering how Dean would get out of purgatory and how living topside would affect him once again. Sam had spent time alone without him, hitting a dog and meeting that woman who shall remain nameless. Season 8 was and still is tough to watch, but this particular piece of music I found emotional as the lyrics really touched my heart sensing a man had gone off to war, and is in search of himself. It fitted Dean’s situation so perfectly it was like it was meant to be. Whenever I watch the scene I always turn up the volume and feel my emotions rising, my heart skips a beat. It really makes me think…

9.23 ‘Do you believe in Miracles.’

Can’t find my way home by “Blind Faith”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOX2evHGX6A

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Come down off your throne and leave your body alone.
Somebody must change.
You are the reason I’ve been waiting so long.
Somebody holds the key.

[Chorus:]
But I’m near the end and I just ain’t got the time
And I’m wasted and I can’t find my way home.

Come down on your own and leave your body alone.
Somebody must change.
You are the reason I’ve been waiting all these years.
Somebody holds the key.

This piece of music once again finds its way in to my top five, as it was so haunting and the lyrics were so apt. It moves me to my outer limits and touches my soul. Sam alone once again in the bunker contemplating what to do about his brother, and drinking himself silly with a glass of whiskey. Dean can’t find his way home, who is he now, a person we no longer no. What has he become?

5×21 Two Minutes to Midnight

O’Death Jennifer Titus

Once again I feel like I am being transported back in time to Chicago and Death meeting Dean in the Diner sharing a Pizza. What could be more explosive than watching Dean’s face wondering if Death was going to smite him on the spot. This pair have great chemistry, and Death is possibly one of my favourite guest stars out of the whole ten years, so I had to include his monologue. Julian Richings just oozed death and played him with such gravitas. He still stands the test of time today. Death lives up to his name; he is an awesome, epic character. The opening scene with Gen singing still haunts me, and when threads come up on the board about favourite music moments, this one often hits the note for me. It’s always in my top ten. Death wasn’t a horseman to be reckoned with!!

O Death

O Death

Won’t you spare me over another year?

Well what is this that I can’t see?

With ice cold hands takin’ hold of me

When God is gone and the Devil takes hold

who will have mercy on your soul

No wealth, no ruin, no silver, no gold

Nothing satisfies me but your soul

O Death

Well I am Death, none can excel

I’ll open the door to heaven or hell

O Death

O Death

My name is Death and the end is here.

9×10 Road Trip

Bob Seger & the Silver Bullet Band – The Famous Final Scene

plays over Dean’s opening montage

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LokOKX35_P8

Think in terms of bridges burned
Think of seasons that must end
See the rivers rise and fall
They will rise and fall again
Everything must have an end
Like an ocean to a shore
Like a river to a stream
Like a river to a stream
It’s the famous final scene

Kevin’s death played a huge part in season 9 and I felt I had to mention this one final piece  as Jensen was outstanding, and it just showed off his craftsmanship down to the last tiny dot. Jensen’s expressions said it all he just went with it and it played out to the audience beautifully. The music again was a perfect match, it blew me away…

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