Supernatural Episode 14 Captives.

So what did you all think, I want to know the ins and outs. I have heard good things about this episode so I have picked up on bits and pieces. Yeah, little old Kev’s back and yes Crowley lied…. I also heard to my surprise there was a kidnap or two. So come on and tell me what you thought of last nights episode. Reveal all no matter how small.

Thoughts …..

 

 

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    1. Leverage. Mrs. Tran is not the only one he held. Deal maker. Unfortunately I think Crowley is off on a human blood binge and forgot about the storage units.
      Damn why didn’t I think of this!! I keep forgetting about Crowley and his human tendencies peeking through. It wasn’t canon though was it? But good thought though 😉 They’ve seemed to have abandoned this story line like many others.

      Love Aunty B xxx

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      1. “Leverage. Mrs. Tran is not the only one he held. Deal maker. Unfortunately I think Crowley is off on a human blood binge and forgot about the storage units”
        i agree!

        Me to barb 100% cool thought …. 😉

        Love Aunty B xxx

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  1. Very mixed feelings about Captives. Still need to process the small bits. Will say Castiel’s arc moved along and I finally ending up liking Mrs. Tran- she truly is a tiger mommy. I have a new insight on Sam. More later.
    Come on spill, don’t keep me in suspense. I need my Sam fix!! lol! I’m pleased you ended up liking Mrs Tran, I did from the start. Not many have, not sure why. I think she’s almost like Ellen like a surrogate mum to the boys and keeps them on their toes. When I view this I will probably pick up on your mixed feelings, otherwise at present I’m in the dark.

    Love Aunty B xxx

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    1. I was going to say the same. If you’ve got new insights on Sam, please don’t tease! Go ahead, throw it up! 🙂
      I know I asked her this and she’s not spilling —- Debbab SPILL!!! 😉

      Love Aunty B xxx

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  2. “My consolation is that you can see how much Sam is suffering this loss of closeness to Dean. (They’re both suffering. They want to be like old times and be close like before but Sam won’t relent until Dean opens up about what he did.)”
    How can Dean talk to Sam about it when Sam walks away? I like that Kevin was so calm about his death and hiow he said its not either of your faults its the guy that was in Sams fault! Forgive yourself boys! I liked the episode even more tonight after watching with my hubby. 8.5/10

    This is still all for a reason. The writers are milking this for the mark of Cain to kick in. Sam is distancing himself from Dean, which will push Dean over the edge. If the story pans out this way of course. Sam is still bruised and given time it will work out.

    Love Aunty B xxx

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    1. What did your hubby think of the epi.? I give it a 7-7.5 out of 10. My feelings about it might change in a few weeks though.

      I have to admit I’m getting a little tired of the writers drawing this out so long, mostly because I hate to see the brothers sniping at each other like this, even if I know its to some ultimate purpose and makes for great fee-fees and I really, really, really don’t want to see more of this next season without a damn good reason for it.

      I was about to wish for a shake-up in the dynamic but I better be careful what I wish for. All those people who kept crying that Dean had no story of his own are probably now wishing the’y kept their mouths shut because hey! story!
      LOL I know how many have moaned and groaned for Dean’s arc now its happened I don’t think they like what they are seeing. They protested thread, after thread after thread. Even wrote to the writers.

      Love Aunty B xxx

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      1. “What did your hubby think of the epi.? I give it a 7-7.5 out of 10. My feelings about it might change in a few weeks though.”

        He liked it a lot. He forgot who Bart was tho LOL He is much less critical of the show than us super fans, if hes entertained he doesnt care if canon is broken (whats canon?). Although he usually favors Sam and he is not liking him very much this season.

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  3. I’m feeling kind of meh! About this epi. I liked it okay but it’s never going to be a fave despite the feels. We’ll yeah Crowley lied about Kev’s mum. He’s been holding her prisoner in a storage container which the brothers find out about after Kevin’s ghost comes and tells them that Heaven is closed to all human souls. They rescue Kevin’s mum and this time it’s Dean who gets conked on the head instead of Sam but once again you’ve got the monologuing killer who instead of just killing Dean decides to tell him his life story. There’s something weird going on between Crowley and Dean and some fans think it may have something to do with the MoC. {yes I’ve read this .. }

    Meanwhile Castiel and Bart are having old timies together after cas meets an old friend at a funeral. Bart finds the old friend and tortures the guy for info about other angel factions and then wants Cas to kill the guy. Cas refuses and Bart,showing his true colors, tries to kill him. Bart ends up dead and I say good riddance to bad rubbish. As a result of this, Cas ends up being the leader of a new faction of Penitents. Angels who have decided to live according to Gods command to take care of and live with humans, but I’m not sure if that is Cas mission or not.

    The brothers unite Mama Tran and Kevin .Sam is the one who had to tell her her son was dead. It was a beautifully played moment between the two. Ms.Tran takes Kevin with her out of the bunker along with the ring Kevin’s soul is attached to and Kevin’s parting words to the brothers is for them to get over it and stop fighting each other but before any conversation can occur between them Sam abruptly leaves. And even though I understand the many reasons why Sam would do such a thing it still ticks me off that he did that.

    My consolation is that you can see how much Sam is suffering this loss of closeness to Dean. (They’re both suffering. They want to be like old times and be close like before but Sam won’t relent until Dean opens up about what he did.)

    You can tell Sam misses Dean badly and part of him wants to go back to the old status quo really, but he knows that if he weakens and forgives Dean, Dean will not learn and at some point in the future it will happen all over again. Dean, for his part, is being stubborn. He wants to go back to doing things the old way too but doesn’t want to talk about what’s wrong. This is entirely in keeping with their characters because every time in the past that Sam has got Dean to talk about his feelings he had to really badger and push him to do it. This is just more of the same tactic only harsher. Sam is trying to make a point the only way he can because he knows Dean will just double down on not talking about how he feels. I don’t like how he’s doing it either and he has plenty of his own issues to deal with but it probably is the only tactic that will work with Dean.
    The way you’ve interpreted this makes it appear a reasonable episode, I should get to see this tomorrow. I was hoping to view it today which was why I didn’t respond to the replies. I hate replying when I haven’t seen it. I think its been clever of the writers how they have allowed Sam to mature and hold the reins, its taken guts for Sam to stand up to Dean even though its hurting both of them like hell in the process. These writers show no how to press our buttons. I think with the deals its made Sam open his eyes and look at the bigger picture. He’s not walked away from it and given in to Dean. He needs Dean to understand that saving each other only brings us death and unhappiness and generally at others expense. I still think fans feel that Sam is in the wrong and that he should apologize. But they forget what Sam’s been through and he needed to sort the mess out before it got hold and they couldn’t fight it off any longer. He’s still bruised from all this and its not getting any easier for him. If he didn’t love Dean he would have left. He wants to sort this out and give Dean a chance to show he’s not going to consider it all over again the next time they hit a problem. Dean just can’t rely on the supernatural to fix their problems. As its affecting the natural order…

    Love Aunty B xxx

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    1. I think fans are forgetting this in their zeal to bash Sam. He is with Dean because he loves him. He stays with Dean out of love.and he’s doing what he’s doing as a form of self preservation. We also have to keep in mind that this is the first time we have witnessed a whole and perfectly human Sam. Neither we, nor Dean know this Version of Sam very well having never met a Sam without demon blood or sickness or mental issues or soulless ness before. For the first time in his life Sam is making a decision to preserve his human self and control his life in a way he never has before. He’s not being addicted or driven insane or manipulated by angels and demons and wants to ensure it’s not going to happen again, he needs to be able to trust Dean won’t simply be a replacement for all these bad influences
      That actually is an interesting concept. I find it sad though that many have turned on Sam when he was the victim in all this. I still think they think he should apologize to Dean. I think Sam was being very mature, and it needed to be said, but maybe in a more humane way. Neither of them can really cope and live without the other. They’ve tried and failed miserably. This version of Sam is blunt, direct and to the point. He wasn’t prepared to let Dean do it again because of what is at stake. Sam has learnt a lesson, but has Dean? This Sam is very different. Maybe we need to see the real Sam and understand him without any supernatural interference. Dean needs to take a leaf out of his book occasionally. Dean over the years has been much harder to Sam, it took back bone to say those things and he didn’t do it lightly either.

      Love Aunty B xxx

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