Will they make The Mark of Cain permanent?

An interesting topic came up on IMDb in a thread titled Does this season have a point? I seem to recall JC stating that there was no real ‘Big Bad’ of the season that the season was about the characters own personal struggles, which this when you think about it, appears to be the case. Castiel has his troubles with Hannah and her wanting to return her vessel to a normal Caroline life. We have Cas contemplating the same inner struggle. We also have Cas now interacting with his daughter and feeling guilty over her father and the whole dilemma of his vessel which only caused the Novak family years of misery, troubled times and loneliness.

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Then we move on to Crowley who some might think is growing soft in his old age, and still remaining very human that he still has feelings for his mother. But what personal struggles has Crowley had, that his mother tried to sell him for three pigs, and he thought he was worth at least 5 of anyone’s money? This pair seem to have a troubled, turbulent past. Which when haven’t really seen unfold yet. So what do you think Rowena is up to, and why after all this time has she decided to show her face now? What’s in this story for her is she wanting her sons thrown, is this all there is to bargain with? Crowley is obviously struggling with his mothers return but why? Is this HIS personal struggle?

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Then we come onto our main leads? Sam has not had much of a role, except look out for his brother. Some may say this is his personal on-going struggle that he needs closure on Dean’s trouble to help him through it. It was wonderful to see Sam make Dean a cheese sandwich, and that the roles of nurse maid Dean last season have this season subtle reversed and have been flipped on its head. Sam whilst on his own for six months hasn’t yet been clearly defined as to what he did actually do. What measures he took to ensure that Dean came home? Has this still got to come to ahead? Is this Sam’s personal struggle?

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Now onto Dean! What has his personal struggle been? The poor sod died, and came back as a demon. Now we know Dean hated being that black eyed thing, so he’s obviously still not come to terms with being a demon, will he ever? Will Dean ever be the same I ask myself? Some even say and me included that could he have faked it, being cured? Then we still have the Mark of Cain to deal with, and over come. This made me think a lot about how the mark will actually be removed, and what effect it will have on Dean when its removed?  Now this personal struggle I would say is the toughest out of all four main leads, wouldn’t you say? I would also add that Dean spent a while with Crowley, and I wonder what feelings the pair of them had for one another, and what symptoms Dean took away from their time together? What Dean learnt and what skills he picked up as a demon working for Crowley? I wonder if the writers will explore this avenue?

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Some are also saying that The Mark of Cain could remain a permanent fixture on the show. But I am not so sure about this. Why is Cain coming back? He wanted Dean to end his days. If Dean kills Cain where does this leave the mark. Does this disappear when Cain dies, or will Dean be left with the scare forever!!! Its hard to say at this point. But are the writers up to its longevity? They struggled with the concept of Soulless Sam, and domesticated Dean with Lisa, and that didn’t prove very popular among fans. They struggled with the whole Lucifer arc and Sam’s hallucinations and the Leviathan story line. And thinking about it the on going angel war in heaven. They didn’t really no where to take it? So would they be any different if this plot did decide to become permanent?

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So what are your thoughts about our characters struggles, and if the writers can hack out this plot with Dean for ever and a day? Are they talented enough to endure us as fans for the long haul? We know Jensen is up to what ever the writers lay before him, but can the writers cut it?

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14 thoughts on “Will they make The Mark of Cain permanent?

  1. I say Lucifer comes back takes Dean and MoC then begins to set things up for the finale of supernatural
    Its not a bad idea, but I am so fed up now of the boys being kidnapped and taken hostage. Several episodes on the trot we have had the same old, same old plot. I also think Lucifer may have had his day, even though I would adore to see him come back.

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  2. Supernatural: You gave me a lot to think about in your comment. I thought this season was all about character development and family. Specifically family re-union. You have Cas and Hannah re-discovering their family. You have Sam and Dean reminiscing about family memories. You have Crowley’s son and mother returned. You’ve got Cole being talked into reuniting with his family after disengaging from them for revenge. Of course the overarching theme is the MoC but underlying this entire season is the idea that family completes a person. Makes them whole. I’m really loving this season as far as characters, too. The plots, not so much. I’m loving Sam’s new thoughtfulness and caring regarding Dean. It’s interesting watching him in Dean’s former role. It’s interesting watching Dean watch Sam acting this way. Their relationship this season is fascinating. Incidentally we’ve got more Cain coming up later this season. So it’s possible the MoC won’t last the whole season.(I hope it does though. I’d like it to be a permanent fixture.)
    I don’t think it will last, I think this is why Cain’s back. I can’t see the writers flowing it out for longer than this. I just think this is the only reason why Cain is back. Just to tie up that floating loose end. Again I think it is too about family, but I think as JC said its more about the characters personal struggles in life. Like Cas and Clare. Dean with the mark, not knowing how to cope with it. And Sam worrying about Dean as Dean per last season. We’ve also got Crowley struggling with his mother issues, why has she come back. What are her motives? I bet Crowley is bricking it right now. There is a lot going on this season, and I am liking the tone and feel to the characters themselves. Their own plights, and what lengths they will go to. There is a lot of confusion going around these characters heads at the moment.

    Love Aunty B xxxx

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  3. Bringing what could be perceived as extraneous aspects of the main characters lives and their past actions (Cole, Claire, Rowena) have been pretty interesting. It has provided a lot of detail while also re-framing things within a bigger picture of the path our characters take. The mid-season finale left us with a lot going on and it will be interesting to see which pieces get resolved quickly and which will go on the rest of the season. Rowena brings a lot of potential, so it will great to see how it plays out. Hoping to see Timothy Omundson return to resolve the Mark of Cain story.
    The Supernatural Fox Sisters welcome to the group. I always say this but its great to see a new face on board!! I like all three of those characters you mention. They all have interesting back stories which could have potential to grow into something rather special if they are written well. No more Charlie, Garth or Chrissy. I am eager to learn what Cole, Cain and Rowena are up to. Claire is okay, but she doesn’t grab my attention as much as these three. I hope neither are killed off for the sake of the plots. I think all four are talented actors, and each bring something to the table. I can’t wait to see Cain’s return. He really sparks my imagination big time!!

    Love Aunty B xxxx

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  4. I am really enjoying season 10. I think we are getting to know these characters as they are now; after all the loss and pain from seasons 8 & 9. I think Sam is trying really hard to make up for his behavior during season 8/9. He was DESPERATE to find Dean this time to make up for not looking for him while Dean was in Purgatory. Sam also finally came to terms that he really cannot live without Dean. Sam was so angry last season because Dean saved his life by any means necessary because we all know that is how Dean works when it applies to Sam. Now, we finally see Sam doing the same thing for his brother. I have not seen Sam this worked up over Dean since season 3 when he was trying to save Dean from Hell. Sam’s acceptance that his life is so intertwined with the supernatural and with Dean has to be liberating for him, because during season 8, he was still planning on returning to school and having a life outside of hunting once the trials were over. He is finally moving on. This is not the life he wanted but at least he can acknowledge this is what he has and his family is Dean and Castiel.
    I still think this is Carver covering up his mistake from S8. It just looks fishy to me that why did he decide to make Sam not look for Dean. What was really behind his motives to change Sam as a person. I still think now he’s felt guilty and tried to cover up his mistake. Sam has always tried to look for Dean. Think of how many times Dean has become a hostage, and Sam has come to the rescue. It just feels wrong that JC decides to change Sam after all these years, it just doesn’t make any sense. Neither brother cannot live without the other. Its in their DNA to go loopy if one dies, or is kidnapped. This is what I adore about both of them, that they go to any length to get the other back.

    Dean, I think, has been cured of being a demon, but the residue of being one is weighing heavily on his legendary self-loathing. This reminds me of how Dean reacted after he returned from Hell. The life of a hunter combined with his stint in hell and the MoC are forming a perfect storm of violence within Dean. Dean has always seen himself as a killing machine so perhaps the Mark isn’t causing the amplified violence. Since Dean is no longer in possession of the Blade, I thought his violence would be tempered. But Crowley stated previously that Dean’s demons were in his head. Perhaps we are finally seeing Dean crack under the stress if his life and the non-stop violence he has been exposed to since he was four years old. I that this season is going to be about healing and acceptance.
    I think your spot on with your analysis. It is about healing, as Dean has been through terrible trauma in particular this season. And I don’t think that Sam is really, truthfully over the possession. You have some interesting thoughts going on here. I do wonder what will happen to Dean once the mark is no longer on him. How he will come down from that high, and survive it all. So judging by Crowley’s comments Dean has a hell of a lot of demons floating around in his head. Poor Dean!!

    I am going to love Castiel with Jimmy’s daughter. He has changed so much since his initial appearance and I am glad the show is exploring what happened to Jimmy’s family. Also glad to see Castiel’s humanity expanded.

    Crowley’s mother is going to be very interesting. I was also glad to see the writers correct the obvious timeline error when Crowley and Naomi were supposedly in Mesopotamia when Crowley died during the 17th century. Since Crowley is still mainlining human blood, he may be genuinely itching to have his mother love him. Remember that scene from Sacrifice? Still brings shivers! But since it is Crowley, I am certain that his mother will never have the upper hand; he is giving her the opportunity to be a proper mother. If she squanders that opportunity, then she will be banished to Hell.
    That was good of the writers to acknowledge this and change the error. I think that they are both playing games and using one another. He’s curious as to why she has come back after all these years, and she is keeping her own merry plan close to her chest. I would love to know what Rowena is cooking!!

    Whew! Got that off my chest! Happy holidays!!!!!!
    Supernatural_forever you too, and thank you for always coming back and posting. I love everyone of you…

    Love Aunty B xxxx

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    1. How do we know that Crowley is still hooked on human blood? I thought he kicked it last season.
      They haven’t shown us it on screen, so I assumed he was still hooked on human blood.

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        1. Right. I never saw it either. Crowley says he kicked the habit and then got back to being King of Hell. Just because he wanted a BFF in Dean, does that stink of human want and desire? Demons seem to have needs as well. So I never saw his addiction as present in season10 either.

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          1. I think he kicked it when the brothers made him do that in Bladerunners, I think. At least that’s what Sam and Dean said they were doing. So as far as I know the addiction is gone but the effects, ramping up all his human aspects, are still there.

            Mostly I’ve seen it in his behavior towards Dean, his attitude after going back to Hell and his decision to save Castiel, his enemy, rather than let Cas die, his decision to have an excuse not to kill and torture his own Mother.

            I think the emotions are still there, and are still informing Crowley’s decision making processes, just more subtle than last season.

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            1. Residue. Sam questioned Dean about demon residue after he killed shape-shifter Colette in “Ask Jeeves”. Perhaps Crowley has “residual influences” from his addiction. An addiction can be over come but the memories and feelings can remain for a life time. I am betting the “acceptance” of Rowena is not as accepting as it is shown in the last episode. I would like to think Crowley is more crafty.
              Me too, I think Crowley is a crafty bugger, and I bet he’s just biding his time to strike. Rowena won’t know what’s hit her.

              Love Aunty B xxxx

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  5. All I can think of is that characters’ true natures are bubbling forth and I hope they come through to a better place. Acceptance. Cas delves into the mission to protect humans when he has done a crap job of protecting individual ones, Dean has been trained to be a killer with justification but not without a personal toll to his psyche threw the losses he has suffered and most recently the loss of himself into demon-hood. Sam – can he be less symbiotic without going dark and does he finally accept the SPN reality and his role in it? It would be great if the second half explored Sam a bit more. AND don’t underestimate Crowley at this point. He truly is the most self serving character – his acceptance of Rowena feels feigned to me and if not, he will learn more about himself than ever before – it has little to do with his exposure to humanity and more to do with his exposure to family threw the Winchester canon. And if the writers go soft on Crowley does it point to his end? Hope not. Speculate that he walks a fine line. Self journey and acceptance appears to be the thread IMHO. As far as a big bad – characters all have it within themselves to auto-destruct – Maybe that is Carver’s arc. Just re-watched a Very Supernatural Christmas. Horrifying and sweet: SPN does is so well. Dualities. AND with that speculation out, Happy Holidays to all.
    I hope it doesn’t point to Crowley’s end either. But is he either demonic or human. I think they need to draw a line now under either? I think he is becoming to human for his own good. He has lost his authoritarian feel, and he is too soft. Is there someone else coming up the ranks to take his place. Is Rowena plotting to let Lucifer out of the pit to over throw her son. Yes, all characters have hidden secrets, maybe it does become too much for them and they loose it. That would be interesting to watch.

    Love Aunty B xxxx

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