This latest theory which is the talk of other forums could be that Sam may well have had a break down and institutionalized himself. Simply over the shock of loosing Dean again, that his body had given up, and had a melt down. Could this be believed as a trigger, as to why he didn’t look for Dean. Thinking about his behavior rationally, could this actually manifest into a real twist for Sam. He’s already been in hospital once, during season 7, because of Lucifer rattling in his brain box.
This time its different. What has warranted this fear in his mind to wonder off and be so traumatized that he could not think clearly, he could not function normally. He hit the dog, how was his BEHAVIOR erratic, up in the air. Is this Sam? I am beginning to logically, and sense this scenario being the real McCoy. It would also explain the wired picnic scene that his mind is still fluffy, and hazy. But this still doesn’t answer my question as to who was outside his cabin the night he left Amelia?
Can I rack my brains any more to get Sam the hook, that is driving my own mind off course. Can the writers actually dream up this twist, besides the other possibilities from a previous blog a couple of weeks ago. Amanda Tapping is making a guest appearance as one of the new angels, I still have a hunch about the angels and want to believe so much, that they could be responsible for this whole fiasco. It sounds right up their street. What other reason would they have to bring in a new species of angel. Past theories include the following:
- Could Sam have made a deal
- Could Sam have traded in part of his personality to free Dean
- Could Sam simply be in love
- Is Amelia a figment of Sam’s imagination
- Could the new species of angels be playing with the boys minds
- Could Lucifer still be inside Sam. Cas didn’t remove all of him
- Could Sam’s PTSD from his time in the cage be causing trouble for him
- Could Amelia be a monster
- Or simply that fans just want Sam to be Sam, no interfering from anything supernatural
Can anyone else shed some light on this mystery and engage Aunty Bella with some conversation please. I really want to get to the bottom of this saga, of whats wrong with Sam?
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Yep. That’s about as good as we’re gonna get. I suppose it sort of makes sense in it’s own nonsensical manner. It’s possible I can make it work enough in my head to psych myself out enough to wait the series out. It’s just sad that I’ve come to the point that I actually have to “work” at continuing watching the series due to being so discombobulated from the poor writing. But I do love Dean… and there is still some sweet brotherly moments there… and, of course, Sam has a place somewhere in my heart, that is hard to fully let go of. It may be enough to possibly keep me viewing a bit more… one episode at a time. Who knows maybe before that final ep, they may yet stun us back to life on it all. Or – more likely – they will follow so many series suits and really leave us dangling in despair at the end. But for now, I’ll pretend the writers still have some respect for the viewers and may one day really come out swinging and make us feel shame for ever doubting them. ONE CAN ONLY HOPE!!!
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Yep. That’s about as good as we’re gonna get. I suppose it sort of makes sense in it’s own nonsensical manner. It’s possible I can make it work enough in my head to psych myself out enough to wait the series out. It’s just sad that I’ve come to the point that I actually have to “work” at continuing watching the series due to being so discombobulated from the poor writing. But I do love Dean… and there is still some sweet brotherly moments there… and, of course, Sam has a place somewhere in my heart, that is hard to fully let go of. It may be enough to possibly keep me viewing a bit more… one episode at a time. Who knows maybe before that final ep, they may yet stun us back to life on it all. Or – more likely – they will follow so many series suits and really leave us dangling in despair at the end. But for now, I’ll pretend the writers still have some respect for the viewers and may one day really come out swinging and make us feel shame for ever doubting them. ONE CAN ONLY HOPE!!!
Yes one can only hope. I think for the first time the boys are at peace with themselves and each other. They are united, and have much more of an understanding of one another. I take back what I said as I don’t think it was an apology for him not looking for Dean, but it went some way into healing those bridges, and Sam came to understand his frustration and anger. He got himself for the first time in years, it must have taken a lot for him to confess his inner most deep feelings and applaud him for this and for being so open. I think Dean registered this fact and has always known no matter what his brother does he’s always there for him, protecting him from that evil. The writers did a sterling job with that confession and only goodness has come from it, even though it was sad and very powerful. We actually saw it from Sam’s point of view for once.
Thanks for the post, always ……
Love Aunty B xxxxx
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Very well put. I will applaud him for that. As for the rest, well, maybe next season the writers will pull the impossible out of their hats and fix the mess they’ve made of this season and make us amazed at how well they put Humptey-Dumpty back together again.
Thanks Max I am still confused over a lot of things but am putting this down to slow burning. The story does have to pan out, so I am really banking on the writers to help me get my head around season 8 as the pieces are still for me not fitting.
Thanks for the comment,
Love Aunty B xxxxx
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Oops… I think you know I meant Sam and not Dean in the following statement: “Yeah, I know what you’re saying, but the thing that really bothers me the most is that Dean was feeling “guilty”, but guilt isn’t the point….” This show is clearly driving me nuts.
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Oops… I think you know I meant Sam and not Dean in the following statement: “Yeah, I know what you’re saying, but the thing that really bothers me the most is that Dean was feeling “guilty”, but guilt isn’t the point….” This show is clearly driving me nuts.
I do get you Max I don’t think the writers have followed it through the best they could, when it boils down to it.
Thanks for the comments.
Love Aunty B xxxxx
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P.S. – Don’t kick yourself overmuch on the whole blog deletion thing. Such things – in various ways – happen to ALL of us. It’s simply your turn, that’s all. Trust me, in a bit of time, all will be well. 🙂
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P.S. – Don’t kick yourself overmuch on the whole blog deletion thing. Such things – in various ways – happen to ALL of us. It’s simply your turn, that’s all. Trust me, in a bit of time, all will be well.
Thank you Max. I did get a message from someone on their forum this morning which I don’t thing has helped, I am still so annoyed with myself, I feel so stupid I should have known better 😦
Thanks for the comments.
Love Aunty B xxxxx
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You’re definitely NOT stupid… just a work in progress, as all of us. 🙂 These things do happen… forgive yourself and forage on… you’re only human! ;D
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You’re definitely NOT stupid… just a work in progress, as all of us. These things do happen… forgive yourself and forage on… you’re only human! ;D
Thank you so much Max your a good person 😉 I will promise to forgive myself. I know we do make mistakes 😉
Thanks for the post, always ……
Love Aunty B xxxxx
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🙂 🙂 🙂
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Yeah, I know what you’re saying, but the thing that really bothers me the most is that Dean was feeling “guilty”, but guilt isn’t the point… the point isn’t that he did wrong… it’s not that he should have gone after Dean… it’s that he didn’t have an overwhelming need in his heart to go after Dean. Like, I don’t want someone to like or love me because it’s the right thing to do… I want it to be in their heart to do so, not due to a moral obligation or they will feel guilty for not doing so.
You’re right. Bad writing. Poor Sam has truly gotten the short end of the stick on this whole thing… and in the process, so have the viewers..
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Yeah, I know what you’re saying, but the thing that really bothers me the most is that Dean was feeling “guilty”, but guilt isn’t the point… the point isn’t that he did wrong… it’s not that he should have gone after Dean… it’s that he didn’t have an overwhelming need in his heart to go after Dean. Like, I don’t want someone to like or love me because it’s the right thing to do… I want it to be in their heart to do so, not due to a moral obligation or they will feel guilty for not doing so
I see what you mean too. I don’t think the writers really resolved this. They tried but its not completely all of it. We no Sam feels worthless, but was this what Dean was wanting to really hear. It opened up a lot of doors, and it did show us how Sam is really feeling, and seeing it finally from his point of view and not Dean’s. I can understand why he didn’t look but its not the full story.
You’re right. Bad writing. Poor Sam has truly gotten the short end of the stick on this whole thing… and in the process, so have the viewers..
I am still getting my head around his emotions, and where the I’s and the T’s cross. But I want to believe that he was sorry, and that went to some way in building those bridges and perhaps now they can begin to repair the damage. I think we have made some progress.
Thanks for the comments.
Love Aunty B xxxxx
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“I can understand why he didn’t look but its not the full story.” Please enlighten me! Is the reason he didn’t look for Dean because he felt that he really was too incompetent to find him… since with all his efforts he didn’t find him the last time… and truly felt there was no point and was feeling so scared and hopeless that he just could no longer deal with any of it? I do remember that he told the girl that he simply ran scared. BUT! Here’s the thing… I still can’t get past the lack of emotion when first seeing Dean come back. With all the analyzing and excusing, for me there really is no getting past his real lack of emotion there. When he first saw Dean, it was like saying hi to a friend he hadn’t seen in a year, not like finding his brother who he thought he’d never see again. HOWEVER! There was that one ep when he thought Dean was in real jeopardy when going into the den of vamps. That was real panic and fear. Perhaps he was finally allowing himself to feel again? I don’t know… I still feel that the first initial realizing that his brother was alive when first seeing him again, would have been a huge relief on his being, unable to hide, even if he was in denial – whatever! – mode. Wow. I really need to start charging you per minute, doc! 😦
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“I can understand why he didn’t look but its not the full story.” Please enlighten me! Is the reason he didn’t look for Dean because he felt that he really was too incompetent to find him… since with all his efforts he didn’t find him the last time… and truly felt there was no point and was feeling so scared and hopeless that he just could no longer deal with any of it? I do remember that he told the girl that he simply ran scared. BUT! Here’s the thing… I still can’t get past the lack of emotion when first seeing Dean come back. With all the analyzing and excusing, for me there really is no getting past his real lack of emotion there. When he first saw Dean, it was like saying hi to a friend he hadn’t seen in a year, not like finding his brother who he thought he’d never see again. HOWEVER! There was that one ep when he thought Dean was in real jeopardy when going into the den of vamps. That was real panic and fear. Perhaps he was finally allowing himself to feel again? I don’t know… I still feel that the first initial realizing that his brother was alive when first seeing him again, would have been a huge relief on his being, unable to hide, even if he was in denial – whatever! – mode. Wow. I really need to start charging you per minute, doc!
A lot of it was due to grief or a breakdown. As he didn’t know anything much until he hit the dog, and met Amelia in the vets taking an injured ‘dog’ to the vets. I think that he has lost so many people that it had to a point come to a head. Something snapped in side him and couldn’t cope basically. But how long did he drive around for before hitting the dog. So many parts of his story have not fully come together. It feels in limbo like pieces are missing. We don’t no what went on when he left the lab, if Crowley took him or he there and then bolted and ran. That lack of emotion when Dean came back I put down to splitting up with Amelia, he was still in shock, and was coming back to the cabin i think to find Dean. He was just surprised to find Dean already there waiting. It was all very strange I grant you. It took me a while to sift through it all. Again this was why I felt so sure at the time that something Supernatural was behind it all, as Jared was hard to make out, may be it was the directing I don’t no, may be we will never know 😦
Thanks for the post, always ……
Love Aunty B xxxxx
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Um, meant “do”, not “due”. Not a great speller when I’m being all frantic ‘n emotional ‘n stuff.
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So sorry for the blogging woes! You will rebuild again, though!! 😀 I do like your half-cup-full attitude. Very nice that. Unfortunately, my cup has been draining and draining, and draining some more on this thing, and it’s not just half empty, but nearly drained dry. 😦 I know what you say makes sense, and you will like their scenes together in this ep, but I’m still left with a lack of closure on that whole not looking for Dean issue. I really hoped they would due something really spectacular – or at least be really clear with whatever their resolve was. Instead you have a nice brotherly moment, but to me it’s like a whole separate issue from the actual not searching for Dean thing. I don’t feel they’ve settled that at all, and yet this ep pretty much seals the deal that this is about as far as they are going to take it, and oh well on us. Going to go in the corner and lick my wounds now. They really pulled a number on me with this thing… makes it hard for me to appreciate all the other storylines happening all around it. Just don’t feel they did right by us viewers. I guess it is what it is and I’ll just never feel the same about the show – or Sam – again. Dean’s staying true – and always in my heart… but it was the brothers unbreakable, unbending bond that truly made it for me, though… and I feel it’s as if it’s been tainted beyond repair now. *sigh*
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So sorry for the blogging woes! You will rebuild again, though!! I do like your half-cup-full attitude. Very nice that. Unfortunately, my cup has been draining and draining, and draining some more on this thing, and it’s not just half empty, but nearly drained dry. I know what you say makes sense, and you will like their scenes together in this ep, but I’m still left with a lack of closure on that whole not looking for Dean issue. I really hoped they would due something really spectacular – or at least be really clear with whatever their resolve was. Instead you have a nice brotherly moment, but to me it’s like a whole separate issue from the actual not searching for Dean thing. I don’t feel they’ve settled that at all, and yet this ep pretty much seals the deal that this is about as far as they are going to take it, and oh well on us. Going to go in the corner and lick my wounds now. They really pulled a number on me with this thing… makes it hard for me to appreciate all the other story lines happening all around it. Just don’t feel they did right by us viewers. I guess it is what it is and I’ll just never feel the same about the show – or Sam – again. Dean’s staying true – and always in my heart… but it was the brothers unbreakable, unbending bond that truly made it for me, though… and I feel it’s as if it’s been tainted beyond repair now. *sigh*
I hope to get the material back, if someone on their forum comes to my aid. I could have really kicked myself. I deleted up to the last page if I had left up to the last batch of comments I don’t think it would have got rid of the entire batch, I was shell shocked when the whole lot had gone. Horrible feeling.
I know it wasn’t perfect, and could see why some were still upset with this out come. But I think part of this particular deal was that Sam had to confess to his past sins to be purified before he could purify Crowley. So I think in a big way he was as guilty as hell inside. He knew he had committed those acts and was trying to make himself and Dean feel better over it all. Many were hard on Sam, and never really forgive him. But it obviously bugged the hell out of Sam, as it was breaking him up inside. He was at least trying to make amends in the way he knew how. I had hopes for this even after Bobby in hell had it out with him. So he definitely felt huge remorse over it. But I put this down to the writers, and wording those moments better. They must have know how fans really felt about it all. They had they opportune moment in the confession box to really lay it on the line. I guess this is how they are writing the boys one is bad and the other is always good.
Thanks for the comments.
Love Aunty B xxxxx
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You have done some house cleaning I see! Ha!! Okay, saw the last show, and I definitely loved the vulnerability moment between Dean and Sam – almost like old times – but I’m confused by one thing… was that supposed to be the answer as to why Sam didn’t look for Dean? – The moment when Sam was saying that he felt a failure to Dean, and “You don’t know what it’s like when your brother”… frankly, I would have loved to have heard the rest of what he was about to say before Dean interrupted him. But, my question now is, was that supposed to be the big reveal as to why Sam didn’t care enough to try for his brother? Because he was feeling a lack of ability and self-esteem? REALLY??? They didn’t even give us the luxury of him actually saying, “and that’s why I didn’t search for you”; but instead we are left with an unfinished thought… a much anticipated oreo cookie with the creamy filling completely left out. Serious letdown with Dean once again showing all the big brotherly love, with Sammy coming out the sad little victimized brother. Wow.
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You have done some house cleaning I see! Ha!! Okay, saw the last show, and I definitely loved the vulnerability moment between Dean and Sam – almost like old times – but I’m confused by one thing… was that supposed to be the answer as to why Sam didn’t look for Dean? – The moment when Sam was saying that he felt a failure to Dean, and “You don’t know what it’s like when your brother”… frankly, I would have loved to have heard the rest of what he was about to say before Dean interrupted him. But, my question now is, was that supposed to be the big reveal as to why Sam didn’t care enough to try for his brother? Because he was feeling a lack of ability and self-esteem? REALLY??? They didn’t even give us the luxury of him actually saying, “and that’s why I didn’t search for you”; but instead we are left with an unfinished thought… a much anticipated Oreo cookie with the creamy filling completely left out. Serious letdown with Dean once again showing all the big brotherly love, with Sammy coming out the sad little victimized brother. Wow.
It was totally by accident Max. I deleted my comments checking it wouldn’t effect the threads, and OUCH it did. I felt so stupid what I prat I’ve been. I have asked if I can get them back on the WordPress forum may be someone will get back to me, and I can retrieve them all. 😦
I’ve not seen the episode yet, and am still in agony waiting for my link to come through. 😦 Its so hard to comment when I’ve not seen any of it. Perhaps my other angels here might help you out. 😉 Sam has always had issues of worthlessness. And I think the writers were trying to put this across. That Sam has always had this feeling that no matter what he does Dean sees it as a failure which upsets Sam so much. As he has always wanted to please Dean no matter what. Which was why he was so mad with Benny coming on the scene. I also still believe that the writers were trying to break previous cycles, and that the brothers are finally both content with each other and reading from the same page. As they have sorted out the many nagging differences. 🙂
Thanks for the comments.
Love Aunty B xxxxx
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